ːsteamboredːI've seen lots of posts on this recently and thought I'd take a look at it. Title says everything. 8/10 of losing is always start with 3 leavers at first 5 min. Premium at high ranks are by themselves leaving it as the only option for a lineup for a long time at higher ranks. Rush the cap immediately, deny your team some SP, get an assist and spawn in a plane. ːsteamboredːWhy the ♥♥♥♥ Gaijin wont ban people like that for several hours is beyond me. Personally if I get map which has these word: "small" and "urban" I can quarantine that I will leave after one death or I dont spawn at all. I have like 10 games in a row where 50% of my team ( mostly premium vehicle players ) die and insta leave with less than 100 points. Topic Replies Views Activity; 10 out of 16 just left the game. I have like 10 games in a row where 50% of my team ( mostly premium vehicle players ) die and insta leave with less than 100 points. ːsteamboredːThey should bring back TKing in RB. Most people who get high rank prem are new and die fast with little to no team input. Whats the point????????????????????? WTF is this gameplay?? In first 2 minutes u know if u win. I know that's not even good or meta. Realistic Battle. Forums; Calendar; Staff; Online Users; More . Allow premium vehicles to have two spawns per game. Bots in War Thunder: what they are and how we plan to get rid of them. Surprised no F5C/A6/A10/KVT but no problemo, will spend money elsewhere. All Discussions Screenshots Artwork Broadcasts Videos News Guides Reviews. We got less sale items and that sucks but I feel like the review bomb should not be the go to thing…maybe being saved for real issues with the game…like maybe doing something about the asshats who. Die. © Valve Corporation. Why should people who bring full lineups be punished for leaving a game early when one death leavers can constantly hop in and out of battles without any sort of punishment? You shouldn’t be forced to take a crew lock when you leave an ongoing battle when you can clearly see the writing on the wall. If you get an uptier, either boost rewards or lower repair costs as an incentive. It was satisfying to kill people like you. It’s done by primarily premium or event vehicle users. Easy way to stop one death leavers in 11. Doesnt take long to figure out your going to bleed financially unless you get a 6-10 kill streak and your team wins, and ONLY if it wins. ːsteamboredːPut a x3 or x5 cooldown on them! It's ruining the high BR matches. One death leavers. Its super dumb to keep it activated. ActivityI just had a game where 7 out of 16 players on my team left the game after their first death. Die. One death leavers - Page 98 - Ground Battles - War Thunder - Official Forum. is to temporarily ban one death leavers, forcing players to have actual lineups (how many players have only one vehicle and then leave without even using a backup?) and maybe have a progressive. In my opinion, players bear a great deal of responsibility for "rage quitting or one death leaver. We will continue to see 1 death leavers. This is a subreddit for War Thunder, a cross platform vehicular combat MMO developed by Gaijin Entertainment for Microsoft Windows, macOS, Linux, PlayStation 4, PlayStation 5, Xbox One and Xbox Series X|S. Are when i fuck up and im way too pissed about what i did. < 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 > Showing 1 - 15 of 99 comments 76561199439813309 May 13 @ 9:53am Yes #1 xCrossFaith May 13 @ 10:00am Yes, and thank you for being one. ːsteamboredːPut a x3 or x5 cooldown on them! It's ruining the high BR matches. If you fix the main reasons why people leave after 1 death, they will stop 1DL. r/Warthunder • Give me your best Warthunder facts / tips. ːsteamboredːGaijin need to be give punishment for 1 death leavers im gona losing for this guys. This is Gaijin pretending to care about one death leavers by fucking over the economy whilst still making large profits by creating the issue in the first place. In my opinion It would seem that the majority of 1 death leavers are using a premium vehicle. Put a x3 or x5 cooldown on them! It's ruining the high BR matches. because high level players are tired of one death leavers at the higher BRs. 76. ːsteamboredːPut a x3 or x5 cooldown on them! It's ruining the high BR matches. Put a x3 or x5 cooldown on them! It's ruining the high BR matches. I've seen lots of posts on this recently and thought I'd take a look at it. ago. Sign In. This is the thing that makes sense to. War Thunder can have a soul-crushing grind, it's how Gaijin tries to get you to spend money. ago. ːsteamboredːPut a x3 or x5 cooldown on them! It's ruining the high BR matches. This is a subreddit for War Thunder, a cross platform vehicular combat MMO developed by Gaijin Entertainment for Microsoft Windows, macOS, Linux, PlayStation 4, PlayStation 5, Xbox One and Xbox Series X|S. I need big maps. ːsteamboredːPut a x3 or x5 cooldown on them! It's ruining the high BR matches. Have you considered the fact that a large amount of people are 2 death leavers anyways in that they rush for CAS, die, then find out they don't have enough SP to spawn a 3rd time? 2 death leaving is much better than 1 death leaving; beyond this, expecting people to have 3 tanks (and likely lose SL) *just for you* is selfish and ignorant to the. Led94. Leave. Move low level idiots from top tier. ːsteamboredːPut a x3 or x5 cooldown on them! It's ruining the high BR matches. 0 (soon to be 7. Leave. started it the hard way by grinding the brits. ːsteamboredːgeneral. general. Whats the point????????????????????? WTF is this gameplay?? In first 2 minutes u know if u win. ːsteamboredːPut a x3 or x5 cooldown on them! It's ruining the high BR matches. Forums; Calendar; Staff; Online Users; More . All rights reserved. Only one way to stop it, punish people who leave. because high level players are tired of one death leavers at the higher BRs. This isn't all of them, but quite a large amount of them. Put a x3 or x5 cooldown on them! It's ruining the high BR matches. General Discussion. In my opinion It would seem that the majority of 1 death leavers are using a premium vehicle. Sign In. Why should people who bring full lineups be punished for leaving a game early when one death leavers can constantly hop in and out of battles without any sort of punishment? You shouldn’t be forced to take a crew lock when you leave an ongoing battle when you can clearly see the writing on the wall that a team is getting steamrolled and. ground, game-mecanic. One death leavers. Browse. Put a x3 or x5 cooldown on them! It's ruining the high BR matches. I've seen lots of posts on this recently and thought I'd take a look at it. ago. ːsteamboredːPut a x3 or x5 cooldown on them! It's ruining the high BR matches. 3) and have a 15k repair bill on every tank in that bracket range. If you lose your first tank that quickly there is. Mixed teams…. Back up. Best squad (just stick with the player assigned at random to you) They say the worst shot is the one you don't take. I don't play arcade, so I have no idea how bad it is there. Most of these leaver can't do even an assist score. Rileyy3437 November 18, 2023, 8:24pm #2. 1 death leaves the match. ːsteamboredːnaval really is on a whole new level of one death leavers. which is in the first 2. Spawned in my Cleveland and proceeded to wreck 12 enemy. Put a x3 or x5 cooldown on them! It's ruining the high BR matches. ːsteamboredːI still wonder why 1 death out game like CSGO or R6S still have full players at the end of the whole match but not for War Thunder. Why the ♥♥♥♥ Gaijin wont ban people like that for several hours is beyond me. One death leavers are the type of people that have no problem sitting a match out. And without any premium Time or vehicule it lead very fast to loosing SL. Every time a new high tier premium is released the faction that has them loses almost every game around it. You don't get that at lower BRs as much or oftenWhy the ♥♥♥♥ Gaijin wont ban people like that for several hours is beyond me. Back up. It takes up to 3 if not 4 kills to make a profit. 70. Any of my search term words; All of my search term words; Find results in. Frankly it is offensive that I am obliged to spawn even once. This is a subreddit for War Thunder, a cross platform vehicular combat MMO developed by Gaijin Entertainment for Microsoft Windows, macOS, Linux, PlayStation 4, PlayStation 5, Xbox One and Xbox Series X|S. why should we hold your hand and try to win it for you, you have not done anything to make my game better except give the enemy team points. Jump to content. Topics tagged one-death-leavers. The profile of “One Death Leaver” represents a player whose performance in wins dramatically overshadows their performance in losses. This is a subreddit for War Thunder, a cross platform vehicular combat MMO developed by Gaijin Entertainment for Microsoft Windows, macOS, Linux, PlayStation 4, PlayStation 5, Xbox One and Xbox Series X|S. This isn't all of them, but quite a large amount of them. In my opinion It would seem that the majority of 1 death leavers are using a premium vehicle. ːsteamboredːPut a x3 or x5 cooldown on them! It's ruining the high BR matches. ːsteamboredːPut a x3 or x5 cooldown on them! It's ruining the high BR matches. Put Russia on both teams USA for sure 2 . Do something before players leave the game not only the match if a baboon spawn HT twice in full uptier situation he only got 2 lives The problem is WT gaming modes are outdated. Best squad (just stick with the player assigned at random to you) They say the worst shot is the one you don't take. Meanwhile, the person who got 8 kills and survivor on your team might be a one death leaver who simply didn’t die that game. Just hold W. One death leavers. I am really tired and sicken from "1death leavers" (aka people who leave battle after 1 death) Especially when my personal missions require. Topics tagged one-death-leavers. ːsteamboredːPut a x3 or x5 cooldown on them! It's ruining the high BR matches. ːsteamboredːBasically this. This is a subreddit for War Thunder, a cross platform vehicular combat MMO developed by Gaijin Entertainment for Microsoft Windows, macOS, Linux, PlayStation 4, PlayStation 5, Xbox One and Xbox Series X|S. It all being one side then all being another side is just the simplistic “cartoon” rhetorical example anyway though. Browse. War Thunder. I had a game a couple days ago. 4. ːsteamboredːPut a x3 or x5 cooldown on them! It's ruining the high BR matches. KD doesn’t mean anything. Put a x3 or x5 cooldown on them! It's ruining the high BR matches. This is a subreddit for War Thunder, a cross platform vehicular combat MMO developed by Gaijin Entertainment for Microsoft Windows, macOS, Linux, PlayStation 4, PlayStation 5, Xbox One and Xbox Series X|S. I have like 10 games in a row where 50% of my team ( mostly premium vehicle players ) die and insta leave with less than 100 points. Leave. ːsteamboredːOne death leaving completely destroys gameplay. I hate those 1 death leavers. Yeah honestly. ActivityI'm not here to debate why individuals one death leave. Root. how about spading 1 vehicle? i recently got t80b and did quite a bit of one death leave, esp after a night game or a map that gives me an anyerism. This is the thing that makes sense to. Tons of 1 death leavers and overall just a lot of people that leave after 1/2/3 deaths with 0 kills. Repair costs. general. Browse. I have like 10 games in a row where 50% of my team ( mostly premium vehicle players ) die and insta leave with less than 100 points. This isn't all of them, but quite a large amount of them. OK. Allow premium vehicles to have two spawns per game. This is a subreddit for War Thunder, a cross platform vehicular combat MMO developed by Gaijin Entertainment for Microsoft Windows, macOS, Linux, PlayStation 4, PlayStation 5, Xbox One and Xbox Series X|S. ActivityPut a x3 or x5 cooldown on them! It's ruining the high BR matches. Just hold W. You get a lot of pens that only get one guy, or partial pens that result in nonfatal spalling. Die. This is the thing that makes sense to. Alle rettigheder forbeholdes. Why the ♥♥♥♥ Gaijin wont ban people like that for several hours is beyond me. ːsteamboredːPut a x3 or x5 cooldown on them! It's ruining the high BR matches. This is sadly how it feels, by the end of a few matches i feel like i wasted my time, jump to another nation and see but its just the same result. Whats the point????????????????????? WTF is this gameplay?? In first 2 minutes u know if u win. I've seen lots of posts on this recently and thought I'd take a look at it. This isn't all of them, but quite a large amount of them. . In this video I discuss war thunders one death leaver problem in detail and offer multiple solutions that might solve the problem once and for all. So with that in mind, I'd like to offer a suggestion. mrgjeep Jan 27, 2022 @ 10:56am. Make it so that after a set number of matches where a player only spawns once, they are placed in a pool with similar players. They love stats. Same way they did when the economy was worst. This is the thing that makes sense to. Activity 1 death leavers are not the problem, it is you 3 deaths one or no kills that are the problem. Whats the point????????????????????? WTF is this gameplay?? In first 2 minutes u know if u win. now take your time and look at the scores after a game, one death leavers only give points to the enemy once, others lots of times. Usually don't stay in the match longer than when they get shot down either, making them no better than one death leavers for winning. Allow premium vehicles to have two spawns per game. ːsteamboredːPut a x3 or x5 cooldown on them! It's ruining the high BR matches. I have like 10 games in a row where 50% of my team ( mostly premium vehicle players ) die and insta leave with less than 100 points. Related Topics War Thunder MMO Action game Gaming comments sorted by Best Top New Controversial Q&A Add a Comment More posts you may like. I've seen lots of posts on this recently and thought I'd take a look at it. Just hold W. If half of the team has this mindset. ActivityI've seen lots of posts on this recently and thought I'd take a look at it. general. if you are on premium time. ːsteamboredːPut a x3 or x5 cooldown on them! It's ruining the high BR matches. Razielkaine October 2, 2023, 2:29pmWar Thunder constantly advertises the modern vehicle gameplay but forces players to start at WW1 - WW2 Tanks and slowly progress towards what they are actually advertising the most. The fundamental difference between paid games and fair play free-2-play games is that you don't have to pay to play free games, and most players don't actually pay. ːsteamboredːWar Thunder — official forum My money is being wasted by 1 death leavers. Though if you wait to do this until the end of October, War Thunder's anniversary sale will have most of these items 50% off,. Just hold W. Whats the point????????????????????? WTF is this gameplay?? In first 2 minutes u know if u win. Forums; Calendar; Staff; Online Users; More . This is a subreddit for War Thunder, a cross platform vehicular combat MMO developed by Gaijin Entertainment for Microsoft Windows, macOS, Linux, PlayStation 4, PlayStation 5, Xbox One and Xbox Series X|S. Look at it this way the 1 death leavers make for shorter games , which means more games per unit time that give you an even probability of winning and so more chances of earning more. So with that in mind, I'd like to offer a suggestion. One death leavers Suggestion I hate these. The recent economy change however contradicts that notion. This topic has been discussed ad nauseum. at higher br . Activity yes, the economy is bad, and has been better. Rush the cap immediately, deny your team some SP, get an assist and spawn in a plane. FlyingDoctor October 2, 2023, 4:27am #12. While grinding gives a goal to work towards, I am playing because I LIKE war thunder. Allow premium vehicles to have two spawns per game. The game is based around combined arms battles on air, land, and sea with vehicles from the Great War to today. People think they're gaming the system, but if you're in a position where SL is such a scarce resource that you need to fuck over yourself and the team then you very clearly aren't 'gaming' shit. I've seen lots of posts on this recently and thought I'd take a look at it. Whelp, I’m a join one death leavers in Wolfpack. Whole situation sucks. You include drones to encourage one death leaving why is one death leaving not rewarded with a 50% SL booster as well. People want to play a video game to have fun, which is something war thunder severely lacks sometimes. With planes, you go RB, which does. I have like 10 games in a row where 50% of my team ( mostly premium vehicle players ) die and insta leave with less than 100 points. 8 minutes in, I'd done nothing and J'd out. You arent wrong, but a particular players skill level isnt honestly relevant to the topic of one death leavers. ːsteamboredːThis is a subreddit for War Thunder, a cross platform vehicular combat MMO developed by Gaijin Entertainment for Microsoft Windows, macOS, Linux, PlayStation 4, PlayStation 5, Xbox One and Xbox Series X|S. ːsteamboredːAnd the rest of the teammates are okay at best (in most games). What I. Jump to content. mostly 8+ are still many leavers after 1 dead , specialy the guys with premium, gaijin you should : 1- minimum 10. Put a x3 or x5 cooldown on them! It's ruining the high BR matches. ShinyZero0 • Realistic General • 1 yr. ːsteamboredː The number of one death leavers on a team has a HUGE impact on how the battle goes. 1 death leavers. Leave. So with that in mind, I'd like to offer a suggestion. Put a x3 or x5 cooldown on them! It's ruining the high BR matches. Activity1 death leavers are not the problem, it is you 3 deaths one or no kills that are the problem. There is ZERO reason to spawn another tank just to lose more SL unless you have SL to burn. 8 minutes in, I'd done nothing and J'd out. Spawned my moffet cause i had 3k silver after purchasing 2 new battleships and crew. Put a x3 or x5 cooldown on them! It's ruining the high BR matches. This is the thing that makes sense to. Why the ♥♥♥♥ Gaijin wont ban people like that for several hours is beyond me. CMDanderson • 3 yr. Find a way to stop players from leaving after one death - Ground Battles - War Thunder - Official Forum here my post from the old. There's 2 types of 1 death leavers: The first type left after dying once because the only brought one vehicle The second type left because it's a map they hate in a full uptier against a country that already stomps at that BR, or because the sky is now full of CAS and if they tried to spawn again they'd just die to CAS in spawn. . ːsteamboredːPut a x3 or x5 cooldown on them! It's ruining the high BR matches. Put a x3 or x5 cooldown on them! It's ruining the high BR matches. In my opinion It would seem that the majority of 1 death leavers are using a premium vehicle. ːsteamboredːPut a x3 or x5 cooldown on them! It's ruining the high BR matches. How are you supposed to have fun playing with teams like that?It's pretty wel known how high/top tier (anything above tier 3) has a lot of 1 death leavers, which start to become more common in the upper branches of tier 3 from what i've witnessed. Browse. ːsteamboredːPut a x3 or x5 cooldown on them! It's ruining the high BR matches. ːsteamboredːHot take:the same people who are angry and review bombing because of the sales are the same people who defend one death leavers. We want to encourage long, closely contested. They should change match making so that 1 death leavers only fight each other most of the time, and those of us who die 5-7 times only match with other players who have good credibility. Game Discussion. Sad attempt to milk money for some unpopular vehicles (tough tbh some are good). 7. While there are hackers in war thunder, it isn't very common to see them because either they're hiding it very well or the game is so busted that the hack doesn't work. ago. But I going more to. Die. Leave. ːsteamboredːOne death leavers - Page 94 - Ground Battles - War Thunder - Official Forum. Alle handelsmerken zijn eigendom van hun respectieve eigenaren in de Verenigde Staten en andere landen. In my opinion It would seem that the majority of 1 death leavers are using a premium vehicle. KD doesn’t mean anything. Forums; Calendar; Staff; Online Users; More . Leave. 1 death leavers . ːsteamboredːPut a x3 or x5 cooldown on them! It's ruining the high BR matches. Whats the point????????????????????? WTF is this gameplay?? In first 2 minutes u know if u win. Make it so that after a set number of matches where a player only spawns once, they are placed in a pool with similar players. Allow premium vehicles to have two spawns per game. Those leavers are just looking at the wasted SL (Similar to your situation) even with a full lineup. Meanwhile, people who bring a lot of vehicles, intending to stick it out, will be punished if they leave early for any reason. Put a x3 or x5 cooldown on them! It's ruining the high BR matches. While there are hackers in war thunder, it isn't very common to see them because either they're hiding it very well or the game is so busted that the hack doesn't work. ːsteamboredː Doesn’t matter how much you spend, you will NEVER be entitled to one second more of my time than I choose to spend in a match. Feb 7, 2022 @ 8:13pm. Whats the point????????????????????? WTF is this gameplay?? In first 2 minutes u know if u win. ːsteamboredːPut a x3 or x5 cooldown on them! It's ruining the high BR matches. Browse. ːsteamboredːWhy the ♥♥♥♥ Gaijin wont ban people like that for several hours is beyond me. Alot of people complain about them, They are a by product of losing 6k SL for every death. land, and sea with vehicles from the Great War to today. Those leavers are just looking at the wasted SL (Similar to your situation) even with a full lineup. Move low level idiots from top tier. . Stop ruining air RB for the rest of your team, cowards. Understand however you like im tired of this sh*t. I'm only at 4. Ideally, make it so you get NOTHING for a game unless you die at least twice if you leave early (obviously if you survive on one life, thats fine ) at least then they. I have like 10 games in a row where 50% of my team ( mostly premium vehicle players ) die and insta leave with less than 100 points. I have like 10 games in a row where 50% of my team ( mostly premium vehicle players ) die and insta leave with less than 100 points. Put a x3 or x5 cooldown on them! It's ruining the high BR matches. I have no idea what is wrong with the players. 7. Game Discussion General Discussion. All trademarks are property of their respective owners in the US and other countries. IMO every premium vehicle should be given an SL backup. Why the ♥♥♥♥ Gaijin wont ban people like that for several hours is beyond me. All Discussions Screenshots Artwork Broadcasts Videos News Guides Reviews. Often you have situations where one team has only one or two one death leavers while the other team has 5 or more. Browse. Often you have situations where one team has only one or two one death leavers while the other team has 5 or more. one vehicle. were all issues, 1 death leave is only one of many issues it isn’t the primary issue though. ːsteamboredːPut a x3 or x5 cooldown on them! It's ruining the high BR matches. Broken matches. Allow premium vehicles to have two spawns per game. Die. ːsteamboredːnaval really is on a whole new level of one death leavers. Repair Costs, limited Parts, and FPE(at one time). Its super dumb to keep it activated. Originally posted by LoatheSomeDungEater: My opinion on fixing spawn killing would be to have to same protection circle but as your in it your essential invincible until leaving it. Put a x3 or x5 cooldown on them! It's ruining the high BR matches. . This is the thing that makes sense to. Why the ♥♥♥♥ Gaijin wont ban people like that for several hours is beyond me. I’ve seen. The game is based around combined arms battles on air, land, and sea with vehicles from the Great War to today. Premium at high ranks are by themselves leaving it as the only option for a lineup for a long time at higher ranks. I ended this game with 10 tank kills, 2 plane kills, 5 assists and 3 caps. The issue was never repair costs. Jump to content. That can be a difference of 10 or more tanks available to one team that aren’t available to the other. In this video I discuss war thunders one death leaver problem in detail and offer multiple solutions that might solve the problem once and for all. Game Discussion. But one-death-leaving is probably one of the worst things to do to have a better income. peak 1 death leavers. Vamilad August 13, 2023, 4:56pm #1. ago. Many backups only gives two spawns and is unaffordable for most people. Die. 4. Most War Thunder players - about. Projectil November 22, 2023, 9:35pm #1. Put a x3 or x5 cooldown on them! It's ruining the high BR matches. #footer_privacy_policy | #footer. War Thunder. Just hold W. Many backups only gives two spawns and is unaffordable for most people. Iniciar sesión Tienda Inicio Lista de descubrimientos Lista de deseados Tienda de puntos Noticias EstadísticasPut a x3 or x5 cooldown on them! It's ruining the high BR matches. 0+rgb. Put a x3 or x5 cooldown on them! It's ruining the high BR matches. Put a x3 or x5 cooldown on them! It's ruining the high BR matches. The only time I leave with one death is if I only have the one vehicle. I am really tired and sicken from "1death leavers" (aka people who leave battle after 1 death) Especially when my personal missions require me to win the battles only to find 2/3 of the team is already in their next match. . Forums; Calendar; Staff; Online Users; More . This is a subreddit for War Thunder, a cross platform vehicular combat MMO developed by Gaijin Entertainment for Microsoft Windows, macOS, Linux, PlayStation 4, PlayStation 5, Xbox One and Xbox Series X|S. This isn't all of them, but quite a large amount of them. ːsteamboredːJump to content. Whats the point????????????????????? WTF is this gameplay?? In first 2 minutes u know if u win. It’s like this, if I were punished for wanting to be efficient in the grind I’m doing, I’d just stop playing. At least 30-50% of top tier game teams seem to be one death leavers while matches usually are less populated due to the economy problems. ːsteamboredːI've seen lots of posts on this recently and thought I'd take a look at it. The game is based around combined arms battles on air, land, and sea with vehicles from the Great War to today. Forums; Calendar; Staff; Online Users; More . Please, for the love of god, punish players that die once and leave. 1 death leaves the match. Topic Replies Views Activity; 10 out of 16 just left the game. I have like 10 games in a row where 50% of my team ( mostly premium vehicle players ) die and insta leave with less than 100 points. WT has ticket, premium, booster but can't hold its players stay longer in a match. There is ZERO reason to spawn another tank just to lose more SL unless you have SL to burn. But too often we see an epidemia of 1 Death Leavers too earlier in the Battle, and that creates a highly prejudicial situation which drives the ennemy team to easily go in the spawn camp situation. ːsteamboredːPut a x3 or x5 cooldown on them! It's ruining the high BR matches. The game is based around combined arms battles on air, land, and sea with vehicles from the Great War to today. cant fire inside it. Sign In. ːsteamboredːI'd rather be in a Sherman than any other tank during the war, so easy to get out of. Forums; Calendar; Staff; Online Users; More . Die. The game is based around combined arms battles on air, land, and sea with vehicles from the Great War to today. In my opinion It would seem that the majority of 1 death leavers are using a premium vehicle. Especially at higher tiers, people get 1 shot and they then decide to abandon the match. When I see one dude with 18 kills and our entire team doesn't have 5 I'm leaving. We as players no.